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><channel><title>Reason To Stand &#187; religion</title> <atom:link href="http://reasontostand.org/archives/tag/religion/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://reasontostand.org</link> <description>Faith strengthened through evidence.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:50:17 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>Loosing faith: My deconversion story</title><link>http://reasontostand.org/archives/2011/04/01/loosing-faith-my-deconversion-story</link> <comments>http://reasontostand.org/archives/2011/04/01/loosing-faith-my-deconversion-story#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:00:35 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Wes Widner</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[general]]></category> <category><![CDATA[science]]></category> <category><![CDATA[technology]]></category> <category><![CDATA[april fools]]></category> <category><![CDATA[evidence]]></category> <category><![CDATA[naturalism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[philosophy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[religion]]></category> <category><![CDATA[scientism]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://reasontostand.org/?p=3034</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve weighed the evidence, listened to the best debaters, and carefully examined the scriptures. And I&#8217;ve reluctantly come to the conclusion that I simply can&#8217;t believe in it anymore. The most articulate priests and prophets were unable to persuade me of the validity of their position. And they were wholly unable to answer the serious [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://reasontostand.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/rem-loosing-my-religion.jpg?9d7bd4"><img
src="http://reasontostand.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/rem-loosing-my-religion-300x225.jpg?9d7bd4" alt="" title="rem loosing my religion" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3060" /></a>I&#8217;ve weighed the evidence, listened to the best debaters, and carefully examined the scriptures. And I&#8217;ve reluctantly come to the conclusion that I simply can&#8217;t believe in it anymore.</p><p>The most articulate priests and prophets were unable to persuade me of the validity of their position. And they were wholly unable to answer the serious questions I had about the sacred texts. Even in the original languages its plain that the texts are hopelessly riddled with errors and omissions.</p><p>If I had to pinpoint what tipped me over the edge, though, I suppose it would have to be the dismal performance of one of the faithful&#8217;s most ardent defenders <a
href="http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/audio-and-video-from-the-debate-between-william-lane-craig-and-lawrence-krauss/">in a recent debate.</a></p><p>If I&#8217;ve throughly unnerved you by this point then my post has Happy April fools day! And in case you haven&#8217;t figured it out yet, my post is about <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism">scientism</a> with the priests and prophets being the new atheists and the sacred texts being their books and others including Darwin&#8217;s classic, Origin of Species.</p><p><!--[if IE]><iframe
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isPermaLink="false">http://reasontostand.org/?p=2852</guid> <description><![CDATA[As a biological phenomenon, religion is the product of cognitive processes that have deep roots in our evolutionary past. Some researchers have speculated that religion itself may have played an important role in getting large groups of prehistoric humans to socially cohere. If this is true, we can say that religion has served an important purpose. This does [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As a biological phenomenon, religion is the product of cognitive processes that have deep roots in our evolutionary past. Some researchers have speculated that religion itself may have played an important role in getting large groups of prehistoric humans to socially cohere. If this is true, we can say that religion has served an important purpose. This does not suggest, however, that it serves an important purpose  now. There is, after all, nothing more natural than rape. But no one would argue that rape is good, or compatible with a civil society, because it may have had evolutionary advantages for our ancestors. That religion may have served some necessary func­tion for us in the past does not preclude the possibility that it is now the greatest impedi­ment to our building a global civilization.</p><p>-Sam Harris, <em>Letter to a Christian Nation</em></p></blockquote><p>If religion is an evolutionary byproduct which is no longer useful, why should we suppose that Sam&#8217;s atheism is any different? Indeed, it seems that if evolution can take us from rape being beneficial to socially condemned, doesn&#8217;t it stand to reason that the practice could make a comeback at a future date if evolution (whatever that is) leads us in that direction?</p><blockquote><p>I would be the first to admit that the prospects for eradicating religion in our time do not<br
/> seem good. Still, the same could have been said about efforts to abolish slavery at the end of<br
/> the eighteenth century. Anyone who spoke with confidence about eradicating slavery in the<br
/> United States in the year 1775 surely appeared to be wasting his time, and wasting it<br
/> dangerously.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed, it seems that we have little reason to think that rapists today aren&#8217;t merely misunderstood revolutionaries who want to drive us back to a more traditional time where men apparently clubbed women over the heads whenever they felt the urge to mate.</p><p>After all, if evolutionists are right with regard to our origins, rape is apparently the original &#8220;traditional marriage&#8221;.</p><p><a
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isPermaLink="false">http://reasontostand.org/?p=2704</guid> <description><![CDATA[No matter where you go in the world you are confronted with the fact that mankind is a deeply religious creature. The religious behaviour may be a misfiring, an unfortunate by-product of an underlying psychological propensity which in other circumstances is, or once was, useful. On this view, the propensity that was naturally selected in [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://reasontostand.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/rock-and-hard-place.jpg?9d7bd4"><img
class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2785" title="&quot;Rock, Hard Place&quot; Road Sign with dramatic clouds and sky." src="http://reasontostand.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/rock-and-hard-place-300x199.jpg?9d7bd4" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a>No matter where you go in the world you are confronted with the fact that mankind is a deeply religious creature.</p><blockquote><p>The religious behaviour may be a misfiring, an unfortunate by-product of an underlying psychological propensity which in other circumstances is, or once was, useful. On this view, the propensity that was naturally selected in our ancestors was not religion per se; it had some other benefit, and it only incidentally manifests itself as religious behaviour.</p><p>-Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion pg 174</p></blockquote><p>This is a particularly difficult problem for materialists like Mr Dawkins to deal with since the historical evidence speaks strongly against the notion that everyone is borne as an atheist, or <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabula_rasa">blank slate</a> per John Locke.</p><p>To answer this, <a
href="http://www.zimbio.com/Richard+Dawkins/articles/64/Religion+Unwanted+Product+Evolution">many evolutionists like to suppose that notions of religion arose out of the overriding need for survival.</a></p><p>However this presents a problem for the evolutionist. If it is true that religion is merely a survival mechanism, then it demonstrates the fact that the primary goal is not the production of true beliefs. If it is false, that religion is merely a survival mechanism, then we cannot dismiss it as merely a delusion.</p><p><!--[if IE]><iframe
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jastrow">Robert Jastro</a> that I&#8217;ve heard in several debates around the compatibility of science and religion.</p><p>[HT <a
href="http://apologetics315.blogspot.com/2010/01/sunday-quote-robert-jastrow-on-faith.html">Brian</a>]</p><p><a
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href="http://www.brianauten.com/Apologetics/dsouza-speaktoatheists.mp3">I recently listened to a great lecture</a> by <a
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href="http://reasontostand.org/archives/2009/12/11/how-to-speak-to-an-atheist#footnote_0_563" id="identifier_0_563" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="Who recently debated Christopher Hitchens.">1</a></sup> on how we can reach a common ground with our atheist friends. I highly recommend it to anyone who interacts with atheists or who are intimidated by the &#8220;<a
href="http://www.albertmohler.com/?cat=Commentary&amp;cdate=2006-11-21">new atheists</a>&#8220;.</p><p>HT: <a
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