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><channel><title>Reason To Stand &#187; proposition 8</title> <atom:link href="http://reasontostand.org/archives/tag/proposition-8/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://reasontostand.org</link> <description>Faith strengthened through evidence.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:50:17 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>On proposition 8</title><link>http://reasontostand.org/archives/2010/02/22/on-proposition-8</link> <comments>http://reasontostand.org/archives/2010/02/22/on-proposition-8#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:00:43 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Wes Widner</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[apologetics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[philosophy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[california]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gay marriage]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GLBT]]></category> <category><![CDATA[homosexuality]]></category> <category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://reasontostand.org/?p=980</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking about the recent court case in California to repeal Proposition 8, the ban on gay marriage ((Actually, it was really more a positive affirmation of what marriage has been understood to be for centuries due to the provocation of the radical and aggressive agenda of the GLBT movement.)) and I&#8217;ve come up with a [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about the recent court case in California to repeal <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)">Proposition 8</a>, the ban on gay marriage ((Actually, it was really more a positive affirmation of what marriage has been understood to be for centuries due to the provocation of the radical and aggressive agenda of the GLBT movement.)) and I&#8217;ve come up with a few questions for the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLBT">GLBT</a> community.</p><p>I am curious to know why the GLBT community thinks this is immoral and not fair that the citizens of California voted overwhelmingly to include specific language (12 words to be precise) into their state&#8217;s constitution which concretely defines marriage to be between a man and a woman.</p><p>I wonder where they derive their ethical standards for fairness and morality.</p><p>I can easily see where the civil rights movement grounded their campaign that all men are created equal specifically in a Christian world view. Essentially, they believed (rightly in my opinion) that there was a natural law that superseded the government&#8217;s laws. This case in CA, and the stubborn refusal to accept defeat by the GLBT community, raises a very precarious question; Where do they ground their objections and why are we morally obligated to obey such a standard?</p><p>However I fail to see how members of the GLBT community are being devalued as human beings for being denied the imaginary &#8220;right&#8221; they never had<sup><a
href="http://reasontostand.org/archives/2010/02/22/on-proposition-8#footnote_0_980" id="identifier_0_980" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="Actually, they do have the right to marry. Same as you and I do. What they are upset about is not being afforded special privileges&nbsp;that no one currently has. The whole mantra of &amp;#8220;equality&amp;#8221; falls flat on it&amp;#8217;s face when you consider what is really being demanded by the GLBT community.">1</a></sup>. I also fail to see where diversity (in the strict sense of accepting all human beings as equal in value) is challenged by refusing to accept all practices and lifestyles.</p><p>For excellent coverage on the whole proposition 8 fiasco, I highly recommend <a
href="http://ruthinstitute.libsyn.com/index.php?post_category=podcasts">the podcasts from The Ruth Institute</a> by <a
href="http://jennifer-roback-morse.blogspot.com/">Jennifer Roeback Morse</a>. Also, <a
href="http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/jennifer-roback-morse-podcasts-on-same-sex-marriage-and-prop-8/">here&#8217;s a great overview post</a> by <a
href="http://winteryknight.wordpress.com">Wintry Knight</a>.</p><ol
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id="footnote_0_980" class="footnote">Actually, they do have the right to marry. Same as you and I do. What they are upset about is not being afforded special privileges that no one currently has. The whole mantra of &#8220;equality&#8221; falls flat on it&#8217;s face when you consider what is really being demanded by the GLBT community.</li></ol><p><!--[if IE]><iframe
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