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		<title>What does it mean to be a &#8220;good Christian man&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wes Widner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Close your eyes for a minute and try to picture the model Christian man. Chances are you&#8217;ll envision someone who is meek, mild, quiet and complacent. Just like many deacons and elders in the average Church. What&#8217;s wrong with this picture? Well, for starters, it is far removed from the risk-taking, bold, and outspoken men [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Close your eyes for a minute and try to picture the model Christian man. Chances are you&#8217;ll envision someone who is meek, mild, quiet and complacent. Just like many deacons and elders in the average Church.</span></p>
<h2><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">What&#8217;s wrong with this picture?</span></h2>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Well, for starters, it is far removed from the risk-taking, bold, and outspoken men we find in the Bible. True, many of those men made huge mistakes, but one thing that you can be certain of is that a man who takes no significant risks suffers no significant losses. He also enjoys no significant gains.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">I believe that one of the reasons the church has largely become impotent. I base this observation on the lack of willingness by most men who identify themselves as Christians to diligently study and then stand up and defend what they claim to believe in.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">A friend of mine who is a former <a href="http://answeringislam.com/">Muslim</a>, specifically a former member of the racially motivated <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam">Nation of Islam</a>, described this lack of zeal this way. As a Muslim he was encouraged to learn not only correct Islamic doctrine, but also the doctrine and corresponding arguments both for and against their positions. They were also encouraged to actively engage everyone they came into contact with and to not shy away from agreements and debates.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Now you might say, well that&#8217;s unique to Muslims. Yes, it may be true that Islam happens to simply appeal to more aggressive men, after all Muhammad personally took part in the killings and savage warfare found in the early history of Islam.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">However we need to also look at Mormonism and the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses. In fact, any religion or ideology that grows is watered and tended by men who are full of zeal for what they believe in.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Contrast this with the average deacon or elder we described above who is more apt to fight over the color of the carpet or whether to allow the youth to play their &#8220;new fangled&#8221; praise and worship music than they are to engage anyone in any real debate or discourse that just might persuade them of the truth they claim to have found for themselves. </span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Big difference, huh? </span></p>
<h2><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The difficulty with docile men</span></h2>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">One of the central problems that has led to the current, broken, state of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Church-Impotent-Feminization-Christianity/dp/1890626198">the church impotent</a> is the rampant <a href="http://www.biola.edu/news/biolamag/articles/06spring/feminization.cfm">feminizing and belittling of masculine traits within the church&#8217;s own walls</a>.<sup>1</sup></span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">What happens when you have an entire army made up of docile men? Typically you find natural masculine tendencies perverted and expressed in all kinds of ways that are generally unhealthy.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Instead of healthy debate and arguing you have backbiting and political games. Instead of fierce love of what one has been graciously given you have quiet resentment of what others have, schemes to get it, and attempts of murder (a la James) or assassination(mostly of the character variety) to get it.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The problem with docile men is that they end up destroying themselves rather than the enemy they were meant to fight.</span></p>
<h2><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The road ahead</span></h2>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">One of the hard lessons I&#8217;ve learned (and re-learned) over the years is that the hallmark of real Christian men is their embrace of and perseverance through trials that naturally arise as they stand firm in their convictions.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">One of the sad realities of the overly feminized world we live in is that often the masculine traits that can help lead us to grow and advance the kingdom of God are also the most belittled as &#8220;disruptive&#8221; and &#8220;divisive&#8221;.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Press on.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">We, as Christian men, need to make a conscious decision to follow the examples of the men we find in the Bible. Good Christian men don&#8217;t sit idly by while those controversy swirls around them. They don&#8217;t bury their heads in the sand and pretend controversy doesn&#8217;t exist. They face it head-on because they are wholly committed to truth. In fact, they realize that the only road to unity is not through docile submission but through a ruthless commitment to truth. They realize that true love depends on it.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">What the Church needs is a few good men.</span></p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_440" class="footnote">Here is a great lecture by <a href="http://psalm305.blogspot.com/2007/09/randy-stinson-mp3-sermons.html">Dr. Randy Stinson</a> on the <a href="http://www.sbts.edu/MP3/faculty/20060329stinson.mp3">Feminization of the Church</a> and here is a <a href="http://faithbyhearing.wordpress.com/category/heresy-error/feminization/">great collection of lectures on the subject</a> from the excellent site, <a href="http://faithbyhearing.wordpress.com">Faith By Hearing</a>. <a href="http://winteryknight.wordpress.com">Wintry Knight</a> also has an excellent post on &#8220;<a href="http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/why-men-stay-away-from-the-feminized-church/">Why Men Stay Away from the Feminized Church</a>&#8220;</li></ol><p><a class="a2a_dd addtoany_share_save" href="http://www.addtoany.com/share_save"><img src="http://reasontostand.org/wp-content/plugins/add-to-any/share_save_171_16.png" width="171" height="16" alt="Share/Bookmark"/></a> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Favorite preachers and teachers</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a recent conversation a few friends of mine were talking about their favorite preachers/teachers so we all compiled a list of (mostly)1 contemporary preachers and teachers we liked and admired. Here&#8217;s my reply: While I won&#8217;t dare to compile an exhaustive list, I will take my cue from Jeff and list a few favorite [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recent conversation a few friends of mine were talking about their favorite preachers/teachers so we all compiled a list of (mostly)<sup>1</sup> contemporary preachers and teachers we liked and admired. Here&#8217;s my reply:</p>
<p>While I won&#8217;t dare to compile an exhaustive list, I will take my cue from <a href="http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/j/a/jahenn/start.htm">Jeff</a> and list a few favorite sermons by some guys I greatly admire (some of whom are pastors). Sorry, these guys aren&#8217;t as dynamic and energetic in most cases as Jeff&#8217;s list<sup>2</sup> <img src='http://reasontostand.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  but I&#8217;m sure yall will enjoy them all the same.</p>
<h3><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">First, some one-hit-wonders<sup>3</sup>:</span></h3>
<h4><a href="http://veritas.org/media/presenters/294">John Brandon</a></h4>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">Excellent lecture titled &#8220;<a href="http://veritas.org/media/talks/504">Telling the Truth in the Business World</a>&#8221; where he describes, among other things, standing up for Christ in the world of corporate America. He has been/is the CEO of some pretty major corporations (like Adobe) and his stories are pretty inspiring as well as challenging.</span></p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff; "><a href="http://veritas.org/media/presenters/117">Mary Poplin</a></span></h4>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">Excellent lecture titled &#8220;<a href="http://veritas.org/media/talks/690">Radical Marxist, Radical Womanist, Radical Love: What Mother Teresa Taught Me about Social Justice</a>&#8221; where she describes her radical transformation from an extremely liberal worldview to a conservative Christian all while maintaining a strong focus and commitment to issues of social justice. Her testimony is absolutely amazing.</span></p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff; "><a href="http://www.prolifetraining.com/Speakers/Scott-Klusendorf.htm">Scott Klusendorf</a></span></h4>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">Has an <a href="http://kristinbiggs.blogspot.com/2009/01/scott-klusendorfs-sled-acronym.html">excellent method of defending the lives of the unborn</a> against abortion via a handy mnemonic device that uses the acronym of SLED.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">As a bonus you should also listen to the agnostic <a href="http://veritas.org/media/presenters/89">Serrin Foster</a>&#8216;s lecture on the <a href="http://veritas.org/media/talks/98">feminist case against abortion</a>.</span></p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff; "><a href="http://reasontostand.org/archives/2009/03/21/god-evil-and-suffering">Bruce Little</a></span></h4>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">We had the pleasure of meeting Dr Little when he came to our church in North Augusta for a conference on &#8220;God, Evil, and Suffering&#8221;. His teaching on such a touchy subject was extremely insightful. Since it&#8217;s something everyone in this world deals with, and the biggest objection to a Christian God, I think everyone should take time to explore this subject.</span></p>
<h3><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">Now for some people you might just want to bookmark:</span></h3>
<h4><a href="http://veritas.org/media/presenters/18">Os Guiness</a></h4>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">Os is a member of the beer-making family of the same name (which alone makes him worthy of note in my book) and a student of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Schaeffer">Francis Schaeffer</a> (another awesome pastor). He has worked extensively in the academic and political communities and has</span></p>
<h3><span style="background-color: #ffffff; "><a href="http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/PageServer">William Lane Craig</a></span></h3>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">Dr. Craig actually lives here in Atlanta<sup>4</sup> but speaks all over the world on a wide range of topics. He is known widely as the bane of atheists and in his many debates (literally hundreds) they (that is, the atheists themselves) only credit his opponents with a handful of marginal victories. One of his best lectures is entitled &#8220;<a href="http://bethinking.org/truth-tolerance/religious-epistemology.htm">Religious Epistemology</a>&#8221; and while it is a bit heavy it is extremely useful in combating common &#8220;God of the gaps&#8221; and &#8220;religion is merely wish fulfillment&#8221; and &#8220;you can&#8217;t claim to actually know anything of a religious nature&#8221;</span></p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff; "><a href="http://www.str.org/">Greg Koukl</a></span></h4>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">Greg&#8217;s lessons on <a href="http://www.str.org/site/PageServer?pagename=tactics_blog_videos">tactics to defend the faith</a> and <a href="http://str.typepad.com/weblog/2009/08/never-read-a-bible-verse.html">never read a verse</a> are things I wish every Christian would take to heart. He also co-authored a book with <a href="http://web.me.com/francis.beckwith/FrancisBeckwith.com/Welcome.html">Francis Beckwith</a> (another great Christian) titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Relativism-Feet-Firmly-Planted-Mid-Air/dp/0801058066">Relativism: Feet firmly planted in mid-air</a>&#8221; which gives a great description and prescription for the current age and climate of our culture.</span></p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff; "><a href="http://www.peterkreeft.com/">Peter Kreeft</a></span></h4>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; ">A Catholic philosopher who has a great lesson on <a href="http://www.peterkreeft.com/audio/03_ecumenism.htm">ecumenism without compromise</a> (even though I disagree, obviously, with his assertion about the Roman Catholic Church, his approach and focus on healing the body of Christ is, I think, spot-on). He also has <a href="http://www.peterkreeft.com/audio.htm">many excellent lessons</a> on CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien (particularly the Lord of the Rings saga). One of the best things he&#8217;s produced in my opinion, however, is a mock dialog he has with Socrates<sup>5</sup>.</span></p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff; "><a href="http://www.garyhabermas.com/">Gary Habermas</a></span></h4>
<p>Habermas can almost be compared to a broken record. All of his messages are about the resurrection and it&#8217;s historicity and even though that may sound dull and boring, he brings a considerable amount of scholarship to bear on the subject and manges to make it extremely interesting at the same time. Because of his narrow subject matter he manages to cut right to the chase and has been instrumental in convincing hardened skeptics like Anthony Flew that there is indeed truth to what the Bible (and we) proclaim.</p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Plantinga">Alvin Planginga</a></span></h4>
<p>One of the foremost Christian philosophers alive today. His material is extremely dense (just ask Beth) but it is also very useful in debate and edifying if you have any questions in the realm of &#8220;how do I know what I know&#8221; and &#8220;can anyone really know anything spiritual?&#8221; His series on &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Warrant-Proper-Function-Alvin-Plantinga/dp/0195078640">Warrant and Proper Function</a>&#8221; is absolutely foundational to any study on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology">epistemology</a>.</p>
<h4><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><a href="http://www.marshillaudio.org/about/myersbio.asp">Ken Myers</a></span></h4>
<p>Ken is a former NPR reporter who runs a ministry named &#8220;Mars Hill Audio&#8221;. He recently gave a great lecture at <a href="http://www.sebts.edu/">SEBTS</a> on the <a href="http://www.sebts.edu/images/video/audio/6227186712.mp3">comprehensive character of Christian discipleship</a> (<a href="http://www.sebts.edu/images/video/audio/8776691474.mp3">part 2</a>) where he argues that we, as Christians, need to be more culturally aware and able to, as Isiah says, &#8220;understand the age&#8221;.</p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;">I think I&#8217;ll break it here and add more later, enjoy!</span></p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_417" class="footnote">I say mostly because there is an age gap in our group so some of the people listed I don&#8217;t really consider contemporary anymore <img src='http://reasontostand.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  but I digress&#8230;</li><li id="footnote_1_417" class="footnote">Since Jeff&#8217;s a bit of a charismatic, his list included some pretty lively characters.</li><li id="footnote_2_417" class="footnote">Not that these people haven&#8217;t done much, I simply call them one-hit-wonders because I haven&#8217;t found a lot from them. What I have found, though, makes me  wish I could. So if you know of any more material from these people, by all means, <a href="http://reasontostand.org/contact-us">let me know!</a></li><li id="footnote_3_417" class="footnote">In fact, he teaches a Sunday School class (<a href="http://www.johnsonferry.org/studies">The Defenders</a>) at <a href="http://www.johnsonferry.org/">Johnson Ferry Baptist Church</a>. Sadly, people don&#8217;t bust down the doors to get into his Sunday School classroom like they do <a href="http://mbcplains.com/index.php/faqs/">Jimmy Carter</a>.</li><li id="footnote_4_417" class="footnote">That I&#8217;m currently unable to find a link to for some reason&#8230;</li></ol><p><a class="a2a_dd addtoany_share_save" href="http://www.addtoany.com/share_save"><img src="http://reasontostand.org/wp-content/plugins/add-to-any/share_save_171_16.png" width="171" height="16" alt="Share/Bookmark"/></a> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently came across an excellent sermon series on Christian discipleship, relationship with the culture, and the central calling of the great commission given recently at SEBTS. This series is by Ken Myers, director of Mars Hill Audio. Here are the links to Ken&#8217;s sermons, the corresponding interview1, and various other resources by Ken Myers [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently came across an excellent sermon series on Christian discipleship, relationship with the culture, and the central calling of the great commission given recently at <a href="http://sebts.edu/news-resources/multimedia.aspx">SEBTS</a>. This series is by Ken Myers, director of <a href="http://www.marshillaudio.org/">Mars Hill Audio</a>. Here are the links to Ken&#8217;s sermons, the corresponding interview<sup>1</sup>, and various other resources by Ken Myers such as a sermon done at 9 Marks Ministries all having to do with faith in culture and Christian discipleship.</p>
<p><em><a href="http://http://sebts.edu/images/video/audio/6227186712.mp3">The Comprehensive Character of Christian Discipleship</a> &#8211; Ken Myers @ SEBTS<br />
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<p><em><a href="http://sebts.edu/images/video/audio/8776691474.mp3">The Counter-Cultural Imperative for Christian Disciplers</a> &#8211; Ken Myers @ SEBTS<br />
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<p><em><a href="http://sebts.edu/images/video/audio/9644664893.mp3">Interview with Ken Myers</a> &#8211; Dr. Bruce Little with Ken Myers @ SEBTS<br />
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<p><em><a href="http://media.9marks.org/2009/05/01/christians-and-culture">Christians and Culture</a> &#8211; Ken Myers @ 9Marks</em></p>
<p><em>Questions or comments? I&#8217;d love to hear from you!<br />
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